**Session Date/Time:** 25 Jul 2024 16:30 ```markdown # dtn ## Summary The DTN working group meeting at IETF 120 covered BPSEC COSE security context status, EID patterns, network management updates, COAP over BP, bundle and bundle encapsulation, and a rechartering discussion. The group discussed the implications of moving to the internet area and the need to broaden the charter to include delay and disruption-tolerant networking beyond bundle protocol. ## Key Discussion Points * **BPSEC COSE Security Context:** * Editorial changes were made, including minimum interoperability for algorithms. * One functional change involved wrapping a parameter in a byte string to reduce the burden on BPSEC security block processing. * A second short working group last call was suggested due to the change in the encoded form. * A document shepherd is needed. * **EID Patterns:** * The goal is to standardize a way to structure an EID set beyond simple enumeration. * Use cases include secure processing, routing, forwarding, authorization, and human-friendly encoding. * Discussions included scheme-specific part types of patterns, particularly for IPN and DTN schemes. * Deferring DTN scheme patterns to a separate document was suggested. * Concerns were raised about the complexity and potential overlap detection problems in routing tables. * A suggestion was made to add language that caveats the matching for the DTN scheme as the most generic possible matching. * **DTNMA Updates:** * The DTMA draft is in the editor's queue. * The AMM/ADM document has been refined, and the YANG-encoded ADM module is separated. * The ARI document has updates, and the AMP document has been revived. * Discussions included hierarchy in namespaces, ACL ADM, and ARI reference resolution. * **COAP over BP:** * Updates include a new section on encapsulating bundles and specifying the lifetime field. * For bundles encapsulating responses, the destination endpoint ID should be identical to the source node ID. * Aggregation of COAP messages in a single bundle was discussed. * The group discussed considerations for congestion control with non-messages. * Recommendations were made on using the BP creation timestamp to determine the order of notifications. * ARPA namespace registration and securing COAP over BP with OSCore were also discussed. * Suggestions included BP.arpa and IPN.BP.arpa registration. * Considerations were raised about aggregating CoAP messages into the same bundle and tying them to the destination EID. * **Bundle in Bundle Encapsulation:** * Bundle in bundle encapsulation can serve as a mechanism for building service provider data DTN networks. It also provides for backward compatibility with BPV6. * Bide is a Janus-sort of device, it faces in two directions. It's a convergence there protocol. * There are concerns about some overhead due to the additional header. * Questions raised about retransmission time, number of bundles in flight, lost acknowledgements. * **Rechartering Discussion:** * The working group has moved to the internet area. * Broadening the scope of the charter to include general delay and disruption-tolerant networking was discussed. * Maintain the focus on bundle protocol, the management piece, and addressing new technologies like QUIC over long latencies. * Topics for an updated charter include routing architectures for constellation networks, applying protocols to underwater communication, and alignment with CCSDS. * Considerations about the whole IP stack not just QUIC. * Ensure the best way to judge and achieve consensus is on technical merit. * Adding considerations and applicability statements. ## Decisions and Action Items * **Action Item:** Find a document shepherd for the BPSEC COSE security context draft. * **Action Item:** Brian Sipo to update the EID patterns draft to address the open issues about the DTN scheme * **Decision:** Conduct a working group last call on the BPSEC COSE security context draft. * **Decision:** Conduct a call for adoption on the EID patterns draft after addressing open issues. * **Action Item:** Carlos Gomez to review the ARPA registration discussion and update the COAP over BP draft. * **Action Item:** Propose rechartering to the mailing list for further discussion. ## Next Steps * Publish the BPSEC COSE security context draft after a successful last call. * Advance the EID patterns draft towards working group adoption. * Continue refining the DTNMA-related documents. * Gather feedback on the rechartering proposal from the mailing list and prepare a revised charter draft.